The founder of the 
Oodua People’s Congress, Dr. Fredrick Fasehun, in this interview with 
ALLWELL OKPI, explains why he went to Kano with Maj. Hamza Al-Mustapha, 
the former Chief Security Officer of late Head of State, Gen. Sani 
Abacha
 
How can you define your relationship with Hamza Al-Mustapha?
 
He
 is a Nigerian, I’m a Nigerian. He is a Nigerian citizen that was 
wrongly accused and I’m a crusader for justice. I felt that he was a 
victim of injustice. I thought my attribution and characteristics should
 come to play by telling the entire world that there was no justice in 
the treatment he was given for an offence he did not commit.
 
Many
 believe that Al-Mustapha masterminded the assassination of several 
people, including Kudirat Abiola, and some people testified to that in 
court. How come you say he is innocent? 
 
Is
 that not the story we were told? Is that not what the media gave to the
 public? The press didn’t write to tell the Nigerian public that one of 
the same witnesses that said Al-Mustapha gave him the gun with which he 
killed Kudirat came back to court, crying like a baby and saying he was 
induced by the state to give the evidence. ‘Who is the state?’ He 
mentioned three levels, including the director-general of the State 
Security Service at the time. ‘What were you induced with?’ He said they
 promised that he would be given a house in Abuja; he would be posted 
outside the country; he would be paid salary in foreign currency, and 
his wife would be given money every month for sustenance. When the state
 failed in its part of the bargain, he decided to confess the true 
version of his involvement. Some of the witnesses, as a result of 
complying with the wishes of the state, were set free and they were 
walking the streets freely. They even went back to their jobs. One of 
them was not even in Lagos in June, 1996. On June 4, when Kudirat was 
murdered, Katako was getting married in Azare, in Bauchi State. He got 
married at 10am; Kudirat was killed between 8 and 9am. And the judge of 
the lower court was told all that and she recorded everything said by 
those witnesses, and she based her judgment of hanging on those two 
witnesses. That was prosecution witness numbers two and three. When the 
judge of the lower court was going to give judgment, she knew that such a
 crime might earn death sentence, she itemised the evidences but said 
there were circumstantial evidences. Circumstantial evidences in murder 
case? What are these circumstantial evidences, she didn’t say. She wrote
 326 pages of judgment. What was she looking for writing 326 pages of 
judgment? According to the Appeal Court, she was fishing for truth, 
falsehood and lies. The Appeal Court wrote about 32 pages destroying her
 judgment, with various authorities cited. At the end, the Appeal Court 
didn’t see what circumstances the lower court based its judgment, so it 
refused the judgment on hard facts and evidences from credible 
witnesses; not witnesses that gave evidences and came back to retract 
them.
 
Don’t you think those people would have been induced to retract their earlier testimony?    
 
That
 is ridiculous. Who will induce them? Al-Mustapha was in prison. Don’t 
forget that he was even accused of planning a coup in prison and some 
generals even said he was attempting to import stinger missiles into 
Nigeria. And when they called him to face the panel, he disgraced the 
entire panel by asking them questions. He asked them how much a stinger 
missile cost. None of them knew. He told them that the smallest type 
cost $250m (N40.3bn). Where will he get that in prison? And in that 
coup, I was supposed to have been his accomplice. The SSS invited me and
 queried me. I told them to put their questions in writing and I would 
respond in writing. They retreated.
 
How come they linked you with Al-Mustapha in the supposed coup plot, were you that close to him?
 
I
 don’t know. I’ve always believed that Al-Mustapha did not commit the 
offence. So, I would occasionally visit him in Kirikiri. I met 
Al-Mustapha during the seating of Oputa Panel. I didn’t know him before 
that time. Even at the panel. I didn’t know him until when I had given 
my own evidence and I was going to the toilet and he was sitting near 
the entrance of the toilet. And when I wanted to enter the toilet, he 
stood up and said, ‘you are Dr. Fasehun?’ I said ‘and you?’ He said ‘I’m
 Al-Mustapha.’ I said, ‘you Al-Mustapha?’ And I didn’t say a word to him
 again. But when that seating ended, he came to me. He said, ‘sir, 
congratulations.’ I said, ‘what for?’ Mind you, I still had that grudge 
against him. He said because you are one of the few leaders that didn’t 
come to Aso Rock Villa. I said ‘thank you.’ It was about three months 
later that I took interest in his case. Then, I started visiting him 
regularly until he started telling me so many things. I prevailed on him
 that as a military man, there are some information that he  should not 
give to me. I told him we will be friends, provided he didn’t set this 
country ablaze.
 
Many people, including Yoruba leaders, have questioned your trip to Kano with Al-Mustapha. Why did you go all the way?   
 
I
 once said they should release Al-Mustapha. If they don’t release him, 
they should take him to Abuja, Jos or Sokoto. They should take him out 
of Yorubaland. A fifth columnist could have been sent to liquidate that 
young man and, if he died in our hands, every Yoruba throat in the North
 would be slashed. All those that failed to leave the North will be 
killed. Now that God has prevailed on the situation and he did not die 
in our hands, I took him there to hand him over to the governor and the 
Galadima of Kano, because the Emir of Kano was not in town. I told them 
that when Al-Mustapha was leaving Kano, he was in tatters, his hands 
were in shackles and his legs were in chains. I’m returning him on 
behalf of the Yoruba people hale and hearty, please look after him. I 
was not thinking of my own interest, because at 78, I’m not afraid of 
death. I did it for my people. When we got to Kano, the crowd was not 
singing any other thing but Oodua, Oodua. It was not Dr. Fasehun, it was
 Oodua. After I had spoken there, one of their big leaders said, ‘Dr. 
Fasehun, we kept quiet watching what you were doing.’ I didn’t know what
 he meant by ‘you.’ He added, ‘but after this journey, we see you as the
 greatest bridge-builder.’ When I was leaving, 45 northern leaders saw 
me off. So, it dawned on me that what I did was not a child’s play. On 
Monday, the Youruba community in Kano, which is four million-strong, 
invited me to speak to them. When I explained to them why I was in Kano,
 the Sheik amongst them said ‘sir’, we have nothing to give you but we 
are giving you a chieftaincy title, High Chief Olododo.’
 
You
 said you went Kano on behalf of Yoruba people, but some Afenifere 
leaders have faulted that trip, saying you were not representing the 
Yoruba. How do you reconcile this?  
 
I didn’t say I was representing the Yoruba and I didn’t interact with Afenifere leaders or anybody at all on that issue.
 
But
 their grouse is that you openly associated with Al-Mustapha, who 
represents the Sani Abacha regime that persecuted a lot of Yoruba 
people.
 
That is the lingering 
grudge we all had against Al-Mustapha. He was part of a regime that 
persecuted Yoruba people. But, should human beings nurse grudges for 20 
years?
 
You have been accused of 
being sponsored to destabilise the South-West and some have said your 
trip to Kano further proved that. What’s your response to that?   
 
With
 all modesty, I will be counted as one of those the Yoruba people that 
are in love with Yoruba people. There is no way I would work against the
 interest of the Yoruba. Those who are sponsoring damaging comments 
about me are doing it from their political standpoint, which I’ve been 
trying to expose. But unfortunately, I don’t have money to sponsor the 
exposure. The Yoruba people of current times think money is everything. 
Many of them don’t believe in integrity. They don’t even believe in what
 (Obafemi) Awolowo struggled for. They are encouraging a one-man 
dictatorship, smuggling in one-party system into the South-West through 
the back door. I’ve been trying to remove the veil from the eyes of 
Yoruba people. If I see trends inimical to the interest of Yoruba 
people, I should be in a position to say ‘don’t go there, a tiger is 
lurking behind the door.’

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